Monday, September 12, 2005

252 Basics

Our church is starting a new kids program called 252 Basics. It's very cool, with lots of stuff for parents to follow up with at home. I put a link on the side, but I wanted to write about it, too, because I really like it. Good stuff. It comes from Luke 2:52: "And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men." Our virtue this month is knowledge, and the kids learn about how true knowledge comes from the Lord.

17 comments:

Theology Mom said...

Ok, so where is the list of what these 252 things are? I'm curious. Then, I'll make my comment. =)

Juliabohemian said...

Wait, what about the discovery channel?

Sheila said...

Krista, it's not 252 things. It's actually 36 virtues, exampled through 150 Bible stories over a three year period. So they discuss each virtue for a month, once during grades 1-3, and again during grades 4-6. The 252 is just from the verse, Luke 2:52.
Julia, the discovery channel is still pretty cool :)

Jessica said...

Hola friend!

How much do I love you for posting about 252?!?!? (well, I already loved you but, well, you know!!!)

I can dig up all 36 virtues for Krista if you like. I know for sure that next month's virtue is Determination (which, judging from soccer, Sally may not really need!) and then November is Gratitude. It is a really great program, especially for families that feel as though they just need some extra tools for instilling godly morals and principles into their kids. Let's face it, couldn't we ALL use a few more morally sounds instruments in our lives?

Love ya, Sheila!!

john alan turner said...

As one of the writers for 252Basics, it's always great to hear stories like this about how much our material impacts not only kids but parents as well. Here's a list of virtues for the near future:

Oct: Determination
Nov: Gratitude
Dec: Generosity
Jan: Resourcefulness
Feb: Fairness

Missie Towe said...

We are seriously considering launching an initiative at our church to do a production like Kidstuf. The Sr. Pastor and the Children's Ministry Director would like to arrange a road trip to see a production live. We are in West Chester, OH which is North of Cincinnati. Could you recommend 3-4 churches within a weekends driving distance that we could consider visiting. I'd also like to know what those churches purpose is in doing Kidstuf. We would like our program to have a strong outreach bent, so ideally if there was somewhere doing that we'd like to see it.



Thanks for your help! I can also be reached on my cell phone at 513-519-0691

Movers4life said...

missie towe,
I ran across this when researching 252 basics! We are thinking of adding this to our childrens program. Anyway, if you are looking for churchs to visit check out Apex church in Kettering OH! They have an amazing program, and also implement 252, along with a Nickelodean feel! Not sure if this is what you are looking for or how far it is, but it is worth seeing to get ideas!

Anonymous said...

There is not much focus on Jesus in this curriculum, but more on inward self improvement. I believe one must start with Jesus, then show what he teaches us. It seems to be very new age or Oprah type theology. The music has little mention of Jesus and how He changes us.
Be warned, this commercial children's Sunday school curriculum is fundamentally flawed without Jesus at its center.

Anonymous said...

I also ran across this while looking more into 252 basics for our church- North Point Community Church in Atlanta uses 252 and Kidstuf- even if you can't make the drive their web site gives a lot of insight. As for Jesus being not being the center- I find that the verse the curriculum is based on is about Jesus growing in wisdom and stature- a model to what we should be doing in our lives- as we strive to be like him.

Anonymous said...

Hi,

Can anyone help me with whether the handouts for the story on the prodigal son for the section on stewardship actually said: God will bless those who use thier money wisely? Something like that. . .but that is the oppsite of the meaning and point of the parable. . .the point of the parable is undeserved grace. . .DESPITE his wastefulness and rebellion.

jayson said...

jayson

In response to the comment made that Jesus is not included or at the center of this material. Jesus is at the center of every session to the point the instructor places him there. It is been said "presentation, not information is what engages the imagination." Jesus can quite easily be placed at the center of each and every session if the one doing the presentation will do so. This is where we make it so increadibly relevant for the children that they can apply almost immediatly in their lives. Usually on the way home from "church." sorry so long

Anonymous said...

I would agree with a previous entry that cited the effectivness of 252 Basics based on presentation- not so much information...however, it is my understanding that just from the written curriculum if Jesus is not specifically referenced as the center, than the targeted audience (pre-schoolers???) for which it is intended misses the "information" about Jesus in the message. I also feel that it has everything to do with implementation and volunteer support. Unfortunately, at our church, it is usually 40-60 children in one room (maybe 9 sets of parents), ages 4-12, all jumping up and down, getting a "great feel" for the hand motions but struggle to sing praises to God, much less understand the meaning of the lyrics. I firmly believe this could be a good program, but targeting 3 and 4 year-olds at my church is flat-wrong and does little to nurture their spiritual development. I'd be interested in your thoughts, you may reply at jhitch11@netzero.com

Patrick the Children's Pastor said...

RUN! We used to do the 252 at our church. Sadly, we sat through two different ORANGE Conferences and watched two different Children's Church presentations which lasted 1 hour+. The TOTAL time spent on "Bible" was 45 seconds the 1st year and the 2nd year a mention of a guy named Paul who was as determined as a boiled egg. They start with man's ideas of virtues and try to add scripture to back them up (it's backwards!). PLUS, we found that any scripture references were GROSSLY out of context (see May's "Patience" and the Israelites...RIPPED from context & just WRONG!). "Virtues/ Values fail in times of crisis... God's Word stands (and 252 does not stand on the Word). Do you want to change behavior (Pharisee) or do you want to Shepherd Your Child's Heart using God's Word? Character (what's right & wrong) change based on who you are around...Good & Evil (when your child's worldview is based on God's Word) does not change. Character traits (virtues) flow out of a walk with Christ...WE can't live the Christian life...it's Christ in us.. but 252 says "you can".

Sheila said...

dear patrick the children's pastor,
thank you for your insight. after using the curriculum for several months, i tend to agree with you.
curious - what is your church using now?

Patrick the Children's Pastor said...

We now use Discipleland. It's been an instant hit with teachers from preschool through elementary. I've looked at TONS of curriculum and found this to be the best at engaging AND teaching Scripture. The preschoolers get a "30,000 foot fly over" of the OT and NT in 4 years.

Each grade of elementary teachers teach the same thing each year (ie: 4th grade always goes throught the book of Acts). You know exactly how grounded the kids will be as the leave your ministry.

THE BEST side effect is the retention of the elementary teachers. It's a lot easier to teach the same thing the next year.. and they get better and better at it!
*There is more "stuff" in a single morning that a teacher can do. I tell all of my teachers...if the kids are nodding off, it's not their fault...ENGAGE them...punt and move on (and they can b/c of all the "possibilities" within a single morning).

Patrick the Children's Pastor said...

We now use Discipleland. It's been an instant hit with teachers from preschool through elementary. I've looked at TONS of curriculum and found this to be the best at engaging AND teaching Scripture. The preschoolers get a "30,000 foot fly over" of the OT and NT in 4 years.

Each grade of elementary teachers teach the same thing each year (ie: 4th grade always goes throught the book of Acts). You know exactly how grounded the kids will be as they leave your ministry.

THE BEST side effect is the retention of the elementary teachers. It's a lot easier to teach the same thing the next year.. and they get better and better at it!
*There is more "stuff" in a single morning than a teacher can do. I tell all of my teachers...if the kids are nodding off, it's not their fault...ENGAGE them...punt and move on (and they can b/c of all the "possibilities" within a single morning).

Steelsmitty said...

Ok, so after exactly 4 years of your original use of 252 (now ReThink) how is it going? Did it accomplish what you had hoped? Are your ministry kids deeply grounded in their faith, know the word of God better and walking closer to Jesus?